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Wednesday, 6 August 2008

Comments for installation errors

Testing feedback and ideas welcome here ! Here are some suggestions to try with installation:
1. these applications have been compiled for Series 60 platform devices that support Java Mobile Edition MIDP 2.0 and the JSR-179 API. For Nokia devices you can check support here.
2. One reason can be because these applications are not "signed" so the settings in your Nokia device Application Manager must be set to allow "all". If these settings are not shown in your device then your device software may not allow installation of UTM data and UTM converter
3. Uninstall all previous installations of UTM data and UTM converter, before trying a new install
4. "Invalid JAR" Some folks have found the UTM converter application is described as invalid during installation. Try uninstalling earlier versions first.
5. Once the application is installed use the Application Manager to open the security settings for the application to ensure Positioning, Landmarks, Read user data and Edit user data are all allowed
6. If you see an error such as "NoClassDef .. FoundError .. QualifiedCoodinates" then your device does not support Java technology JSR-179 API. Unfortunately these applications will not work in your device.

Comments:
Hi Guy,

I love your tool!

would it be possible to add conversion from the following format as well? this format is used for geocaching - I would need to convert it to Decimal format for input in Nokia maps. at home I can use many online tools but I need something mobile.

DDD MM.MMM


best,
Markus
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 21 January 2008 at 04:45
 
Added in the latest version - thanks for the suggestion.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 23 January 2008 at 00:14
 
Hi Guy,

thank you very much for the quick turnaround! works great :-)


best,
Markus
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 23 January 2008 at 07:50
 
Guy I appreciate your programme.

Thanks very much.

Kenny
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 13 February 2008 at 01:23
 
Cheers Kenny. Suggestions or bugs are welcome. I'm preparing a minor update which should be ready in the next week or two.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 13 February 2008 at 09:42
 
thanks a lot !

I am using it with a N73 with a globalsat BT-338 bluetooth GPS and it is working perfectly !
posted by Anonymous Tâm : 24 February 2008 at 07:04
 
good to hear you find it works on N73!
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 25 February 2008 at 12:14
 
Hello Nice program !!
I like to ask why the bearing in the circle screen always show 92 deg as heading ?

My selected mark is at 06 deg heading
posted by Blogger TACHI : 24 March 2008 at 03:31
 
Correction to my last post
The program work fine, I do not advice that I can choice a mark and then Follow it. The circle track the bearing and distance very well.


Your program make my N95 into a Garmin GPS

Many thanks
posted by Blogger TACHI : 24 March 2008 at 05:10
 
Very well done! Thanks. Maybe this is beyond the feature set but I'd love to be able to enter two locations in any of the supported formats and calculate the distance between them.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 19 April 2008 at 20:55
 
Hello, I have a problem with loading my map image. When I select "Options>Load map file" it does nothing, then I select "clear map file" -- nothing, then I select "load map file" again and then it asks "Allow application UTM data to read user data?" -- I select "YES" -- nothing happens! The WORLD map is always on the screen. I have put my files into the phone memory /Images/Maps folder and also on the memory card, but I cant get it to work, any sugestions???
Thanks in forward
posted by Blogger Priit : 28 April 2008 at 18:59
 
Many thanks for a good tool. How about adding full-screen mode please?
posted by Anonymous esdee : 29 April 2008 at 06:12
 
Hi Priit - try the latest version! I tested your files with the Nokia emulator and with a Nokia E90, and in both cases the Tallinn map worked first time for me. I sent screen shots of the Tallinn map display to your email. Good luck.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 29 April 2008 at 14:22
 
Hi Esdee, Fullscreen view of the map image is now available in the today's release 0.96.1 Cheers, Guy
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 29 April 2008 at 14:54
 
That was fast! It looks much better now. Thanks. However, could you further make the fullscreen to apply to all three screens and not just the map screen?
posted by Anonymous esdee : 29 April 2008 at 19:54
 
Funny thing, now I get to the menu where I should load my map, but It doesn't show my map, I can only see the world map(default) map!

the actual path of the map files is
C:\data\Images\Maps
Maybe there's a problem?
posted by Blogger Priit : 1 May 2008 at 23:09
 
hi Priit, 1) is your E51 connected to a GPS device? 2) are the current displayed GPS coordinates within your map? ... The map list will only shows maps covering the current GPS location (reason: you can't plot a location on a map if you are not within the area covered by that map) Cheers, Guy
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 2 May 2008 at 12:09
 
hi Esdee, I'll look at fullscreen support in a future release. cheers, Guy
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 2 May 2008 at 12:10
 
Now I got it working, when the map is too big then it says "Location is out of this map!

Thanks
posted by Blogger Priit : 2 May 2008 at 15:17
 
Thanks Guy. I look forward to the fullscreen support. Here's a bug report:

Options > View Landmarks > Select Landmark > Show Bearing

results in the application (the new beta) exiting.

Reproducible everytime. This is on a Nokia N82.

Cheers
posted by Anonymous esdee : 3 May 2008 at 20:41
 
Hi Priit, good to hear map loading works in your Nokia E51: please tell the map resolution and file size that works?
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 5 May 2008 at 11:30
 
Hi Esdee, I wasn't able to reproduce this bug in a friend's N82 device here, no rebooting and selected landmark showed on the map and coordinate views ... perhaps the devices have different software, or the landmark store data is somehow corrupted? Hard for me to say. Good luck, Guy
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 5 May 2008 at 11:57
 
Hi Guy,

An uninstall/reinstall appears to have fixed the problem.

Thanks
posted by Anonymous esdee : 7 May 2008 at 21:55
 
Hello

Many thanks for your utility. It has finally allowed me to understand why I end up in a completely different place when entering "the same" co-ordinates as others do into my N95.

My suggestion is for something less detailed (a lite version perhaps?) that simply allows you to enter degrees, minutes seconds coordinates into the app and have the N95 notation created and saved as a landmark all from the first page!
Regardless of this, thank you very much for the app as it is!

Neil
posted by Anonymous Neil Adamson : 17 May 2008 at 16:46
 
This is a really nice program!
A few remarks: if you click to start UTM-data twice (because the first time seems nothing to happen) my phone hangs. So click once!

It would be nice if there could be ad a function to store youre trail, and export it to google maps or to see the trail again on your phone. (When you exit it is deleted?!)

You could easy make card yourself with google maps/earth especially the Terrain View!

You could use this program beside TomTom, very handy!

I've made my own cards, it's confusing that there's not already a map images/maps.

Maybe you could make a manual to make card yourself, or how to do this quickly.
posted by Blogger Laurus : 28 May 2008 at 06:18
 
It would also be nice to zoom in/out on your cards.

Do you know how it's possible to run TomTom and Nokia Sport Tracker at the same time while both are using the gps? Now always one can use it.

With UTM-data this is never a problem.
posted by Blogger Laurus : 28 May 2008 at 06:21
 
To work in SonyEricsson Handies, where do the mapdata-files etc belong?
/ms/other does not work
/ms/picture does not wor

Thanks in advance!
Kai
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 29 June 2008 at 10:01
 
Hi Kai - I haven't tried using Sony-Ericsson handset. Does UTM data work - are GPS coordinates displayed? If so, which model are you using? If there is a file explorer, I would try in the root directory creating a folder Images, and a sub-folder Maps, then store the map images there. Good luck!
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 30 June 2008 at 11:01
 
Neil - try the new UTM converter. Less detailed converter tool and more efficient than UTM data

Laurus -

1) the bug is still there regarding pressing quickly when opening. I can't find the cause

2) regards using Google Maps as map images, I've found it's hard to get the precise border coordinates from Google. It is possible to download a map, but the border coordinates are not specified, and anyway doing this in a mobile application infringes their copyrights... You're better off using their Google Maps S60 application :)
openstreetmap.org has better suupport for border coordinates (see blog post)

3) regards KML, I'll see how to do that in a future build.

4) see blog download post for link for the manual for creating map images/cards - it is pretty tedious work for sure! As I haven't (yet) seen alternative for S60 device map support for French Alps, I'll probably perserve.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 4 July 2008 at 16:42
 
Marcus - try the new UTM converter for dd.mmm and d-m-s conversions. There is a bug in UTM data for coordinates South of Equator or just West of Greenwich meridian e.g.: when converting -0.xyz degrees. In Scandinavia this bug wouldn't be noticed. This will be fixed in next UTM data release.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 4 July 2008 at 16:49
 
Really nice tool!! Thanks for making it available for free!!!

by the way:Would it be possible to include an export option for the landmarks in a later version, so that the landmarks can be written to memory as a file.

Exporting it the regular way (Landmarks -> send -> ...) is a bit inconvenient.

Tip: if you like to convert lmx-files to other formats use gpsbabel:
http://www.gpsbabel.org/

regards,
Martin
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 9 July 2008 at 02:43
 
Guy,
Just downloaded and installed this on my N82. I have been looking for something to display OS grid references on my mobile for a while.

This is perfect

Thanks
posted by Anonymous Rob : 27 July 2008 at 07:36
 
Hi Guy, I found your blog thru google looking for a free java application to drive a gps unit, i would like to use it as a sport trainer to measure my speed.
I downloaded the zipfile, extracted the files and installed the jar using nokia application installer.
When I launch the program i get the following error:

No Class Def Found Error
java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError
javax/microedition/location/QualifiedCoordinates

I tried and tried, also by manual loading, but nothing seems to work.
Do you have any idea? I own a Nokia 6233 mobile phone.

Anyway, congratulations for your cool job!

Edoardo
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 6 August 2008 at 23:38
 
Hi,

Thanks for a great tool.

Is possible to select another default map instead of the world map.

Regards
Søren Larsen
http://soerenlarsen.dk
posted by Blogger Søren Larsen : 25 August 2008 at 16:13
 
hey,

every1 seams to have nokia?

I am stuck on my g600 samsung and always said java game error please help :(
is it because i need to go on settings and putlogin ID pass APN PRoxy etc?
thanks
posted by Blogger amos152001 http://www.linklift.it/?ref=08cc3484342 : 28 August 2008 at 05:24
 
Amos - probably your phone does not support Java technology feature called JSR-179 so these UTM applications will not work. Samsung SGH-G810 should work as it uses the Series 60 platform and has GPS built in. These applications have been created with a Series 60 development kit...
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 30 August 2008 at 16:35
 
Soeren - thanks for the feedback. Whilst it should be technically possible - we have been to the moon(!) - I haven't got a solution planned for this.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 30 August 2008 at 16:39
 
(Updated) Edoardo, your 6233 phone does not support a required Java technology feature called JSR-179 Location API
http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/6233
Your 6233 is a Series 40 device: to date no Series 40 devices support JSR-179, but that may change in future S40 phone models.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 30 August 2008 at 16:45
 
I installed on my samsung Z720, but when I start the application leaves me this message:

java.lang.NoClassDef
FoundError:
javax / microedition / location / QualifiedCoodinates

What should I do?

Thank you
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 6 September 2008 at 19:12
 
to: Anonymous who installed on samsung Z720... Probably your phone does not support a Java location feature called the JSR-179 API, in which case these applications will not work.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 7 September 2008 at 17:38
 
Hi!

I successfully downloaded your latest version (UTM data - 0.97.3 beta) on my SonyEricsson K610i (running J2ME) BUT when I start it an "Error in the application" appears and it quits ... :(

Any idea?

Thanky in advance for your reply!

yano
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 19 November 2008 at 21:39
 
Yano, according to Sony-Ericsson developer website K610i doesn't supprt Java technology JSR 179 API. That means these applications won't work...

Anyone with a Sony-Ericsson phone with JSR 179 support - feel free to contact me. See this link and select "JSR", and check "Location(JSR-179)"
https://developer.sonyericsson.com/device/searchDevice.do?restart=true
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 22 November 2008 at 11:49
 
Very informative. Very clearly briefed. I found it as useful as the original manual. Thanks for this posting. Awaiting your future updates.

Developer4lease-Web Business, Application Development, Android
posted by Anonymous Developer4lease : 1 December 2008 at 16:56
 
Hi Guy,

Thanks a lot.
Do you have UTM israel conversion too?
if not how can I do it?
Thanks,
Benjy
posted by Blogger benjy : 23 January 2009 at 04:05
 
Hi Benjy
I do not have conversion code for Israeli Transverse Mercator. If you can write Java methods to convert from decimal WGS84 to Isreali (in both directions) same as
http://www.jstott.me.uk/jcoord/
then I can try porting it. If you are interested you can contact me by gmail
Guy
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 23 January 2009 at 11:25
 
I can't install it on my E90.
I start the installation process, progressbar goes up to 90%, then asks for access point (i have tried gsm / wifi), shows 3g traffic icon, waits for few seconds and then displays simple error: unable to install.
Same result when i try to install to phone memory or to memocry card.
No previous UTM data installation
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 14 June 2009 at 21:31
 
This comment has been removed by the author.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 15 June 2009 at 08:27
 
@anonymous/E90
The install logs on 14th June show an E90 in Finland(Elisa) using an Opera browser - you? Each time the error is "User cancelled". Weird.

Two weeks ago I installed to an E90 with software 300.34.84 (latest from Nokia software updater). Check device SW is up to date? Check the application manager settings allow "All" software installations?

The logs also say you have software 400.34.93 which I have not tested.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 15 June 2009 at 08:32
 
Hi

I upgraded my phone to latest sw yesterday. Before that i tried with older version :(.

Tried also today with device browser from 195.50.213.18.

Settings->Applications->App.manager is configured to install ALL software and Online certificate check is OFF



Mihkel
@anonymous/E90
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 15 June 2009 at 15:27
 
@Mihkel

Your settings are the same as mine.

I updated my E90 to 400.34.93 and installed UTM data using the browser link with no problems:

http://www.hostj2me.com/downloads/
1071/4337/UTM_data.jad

So I don't know what is the reason for this installation problem.

Are you having same problem when you install UTM converter?
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 16 June 2009 at 13:00
 
Hi

UTM converter failed to install also.

I foramtted memory card and factory reseted the phone.

Restored only contacts etc. but not settings nor files.

Then installed UTM data and this time it worked.

Mihkel
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 16 June 2009 at 18:01
 
Successfully installed this great application on a Nokia 6700 classic (that's right, Symbian S40). The only thing that is not working correctly is that if you select less 'coordinate settings' the font gets larger and goes beyond the resolution of my display. In other words: sentences are cut off.

Peter
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 18 August 2009 at 01:53
 
Hello Guy,

Very nice proggie! I use it on a Nokia N79.

I have a few suggestions:

Settings page:

Go online at startup => I suppose you want to say: Start with phone boot (or something like that, in proper English)

Timeout alarm - what is that? Maybe a little help file would be nice (also for "Go online at startup")

--

Menu: There are two entries "Exit" in the main menu. One is enough ;=)

--


I would very much like to see an option where UTM sends its position via SMS automatically at regular intervals to a preset mobile number, provided the Nokia has moved a certain distance and/or a certain time has elapsed:

settable minimum distance to move before an SMS is sent: 50 meters - 500 meters - 1 km - 10 km - 100 km - or always sending, irrespective of travelled distance

Settable interval to send an SMS:

every 5-15-30-60 minutes
every 2-4-6-12-24 hours

--

And it would be very nice to have an option where another person can query the UTM with a special SMS text to retrieve the current position, speed and heading; it should be settable whether the UTM receives this data quietly or with a noticeable sound/vibration. PhoneBak does this but is otherwise rather buggy.

--

I'd be ready to pay let's say USD 25 for the interval sending and the remote querying.

Kind regards
Christoph
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 6 September 2009 at 05:16
 
@Peter
About font size - that's due to Java implementation in Nokia phone S40 OS, nothing I can do about it
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 6 September 2009 at 20:51
 
@Christoph
Great suggestions!

Go online at startup => means "start GPS at UTM data program start"

Timeout alarm =>
means if you do nothing after timeout of 5 minutes there will be a warning sound, to let you know your battery is being used up by GPS usage. Crucial when hiking and you put your phone away not to flatten the battery.

I should write a help file...

Menu: There are two entries "Exit" in the main menu. One is enough ;=)
:) This is a Java implementation quirk. In some phones (E90 and N95) you will only see one "Exit" entry. If I take out the one I put in the code, then there is none. I haven't figured this out, but then I am just a hacker, not a pro!

I would very much like to see an option where UTM sends its position via SMS automatically at regular intervals to a preset mobile number, provided the Nokia has moved a certain distance and/or a certain time has elapsed

Great feature. The problem will be a user prompt to confirm every sent SMS. This is because my application is not signed, and I am too mean to pay 500usd(?) per year to buy that.

It's good to know you would pay for such a feature. But I have been honest about much of code is not my copyright and therefore I can not release a commercial version without paying licence fees. Again I just a part time hacker who was happy, and had time, to make a better app than what I found in my Nokia phone...

Cheers!
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 6 September 2009 at 21:00
 
Hi Guy,
your software is marvalous and charged well on my new Samsung Omnia 2 GTI8000.
Anyhow I'm looking for instructions/tutorials because the software is really strong and deserves all care and information for full utilization.
Merry Xmas! and thanks

Fausto Mella Italy
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 20 December 2009 at 21:17
 
@Fausto Mella

I am amazed it works in Windows Mobile - I didn't think Microsoft could be compatible with anything like jJava :)

The software is not being developed anymore - if you have used a Nokia product the user interface should be okay(ish) to use. Sorry no manual available for freeware...
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 3 January 2010 at 18:47
 
At my nokia 5230 utms data doesn't start. First time after installing it works but then i click on the programm button and nothing happens, can anyone help??
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 15 April 2010 at 17:07
 
I had problems with the latest version not starting on a 5230, but the previous versions do work fine. Thanks!
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 30 July 2010 at 05:31
 
Hi Guy,

Your tool looks perfect for my needs, but the latest version is stuck at 'A-GPS:searching...' and never gets a fix.

If I go offline and try to get the current position, I get 'No position fix, try again?'

I'm using a Nokia N79 which supports JSR-179 and works fine with Nokia Maps. Any ideas what might be going wrong?

Can you tell me how I might get hold of a previous version to see if that works?

Thanks a lot,

Gary.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 10 September 2010 at 18:51
 
Hi Guy,

My mistake - I just didn't have enough satellite coverage, which of course was what the error message was saying :)

The app is great!

Gary.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 11 September 2010 at 04:48
 
Does the Nokia 5230 support the utm data converter? If so, which version?
posted by Anonymous Anonymous : 21 September 2010 at 03:11
 
hi Guy
have installed v 97.6 converter on nokia 5230 however it only worked the first time and not subsequently. I have followed all your instructions in the release notes.
any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers
Graham
posted by Anonymous Graham : 21 September 2010 at 16:58
 
Several people are having trouble with Nokia 5230 and UTM Data: try UTM Converter for coordinate conversion instead.
posted by Blogger Guy Nicholson : 3 October 2010 at 22:58
 
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